Hey there and welcome back to Conversations at the Well. We are on episode six. We have made it six episodes and in this episode we're going to be talking about our experience. As we had set aside last Saturday as a day of rest, y'all responsibilities were there, everything we had to do was there, but we said we were going to have a Sabbath day, a day of rest, lord Jesus.

I know, look, vernon doesn't even have any hair anymore from pulling out his, because you know he was just trying to rest.

Anyways, we will see you in the episode. Stick around at Conversations at the Well, Hello, hello and welcome. Actually, why don't you introduce? Why don't you get started? I always start it off.

Good morning, good morning. Good morning, no, just kidding I can't take my intros, go ahead all right. Hey, everybody, welcome to conversations at the. Well, I'm deseret and this is my awesome husband her better half her amazing half the half that makes her life so happy.

Vernon brown, calm down, sir, I'm sorry.

All of those things are still true though. So, anyway, we are here and we are back for episode six. I'm hitting the mic, so sorry, sorry about that. Uh, so we're back for episode six, and we told you. We told you that we were gonna tell y'all. Well, we told y'all we were gonna do this sabbath thing. We told y'all, we were gonna tell you how it went no, no, no, no.

Let's be honest, because some people like to leave out details first and foremost I think it was episode four. She was excited about Sabbath and she wanted to do it and go forth and spend her day all in the presence of the Lord. And then episode five. It got real. Episode five it got real. We record on Fridays, so that means the next day. It was going to be her Sabbath day, our Sabbath day.

Our Sabbath day. She did not do.

I was a little less excited because, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that has to happen she wanted to push it back and I said no, no, don't you be lying to the conversation at the well and nights out there. Conversation at the well, anyway the well of nights okay, we got it done. We did our sabbath on saturday and it was, you know, the saturday itself.

I feel like was good, yeah, but the friday, before trying to prepare we were up to like, literally like 11 59, trying to make this thing shake because yeah it was.

It was a lot because we had a lot to do like get ready to not do saturday quite honestly, I don't think my sabbath started until like 3 am or 2 am because I was still trying to get stuff done, so it wasn't a full sabbath for me, but I still give myself credit for trying and for getting it done and for going into it yes, so okay step one, step one let's for those go ahead for those of you who haven't or didn't hear episode five or episode four or previous episodes, go back and watch them, but until before, then you were.

Even if you decide not to do that right now, let's tell them a little bit about what we're talking about here, yeah, okay, yeah, we kept throwing this word out.

Sabbath, you may have heard of it, um, yeah, especially if you watched, uh, the ten commandments at some point growing up.

Everybody didn't grow up.

Not everybody did that but there are still some people who did.

Some of us grew up watching Martin, not the Ten Commandments.

Was it on Prince of Egypt or something? I don't know, maybe not, because that was something different. That was still Moses, but different. It was like Moses as a baby, anyway, okay, well, in any case, there's this thing about the Sabbath, about remember the Sabbath and keep it holy right, and so it's something that God said was important, but for most modern times, like we don't have anything close to a Sabbath, like every day we're working, and so a Sabbath is supposed to be a day set apart or different than any other day, that is reserved for rest.

It's reserved for connection with God, and you know, whatever your religious background is. But ours.

Being Christian, we connect with God and our family.

And I love the word you said in that set apart. It doesn't mean that one random day a week we decide, hey, this is convenient to make this our Sabbath, but you purposefully set it aside, you purposefully prioritize it enough to where, even if there are things that have to be done, no, no, no, they need to be moved because this day has been set aside with purpose.

Yeah, so in order to do that in real life, it takes planning, it takes planning, it takes preparation. Because it's really about not, it's really about resting, and resting doesn't necessarily mean literally laying in bed all day, although if you want to do, do what you want to, but but it's. It's about, like, the intentional time of like, not focused in on the work and on the grind and all of that stuff which is super countercultural in 2024 yeah, because I mean we talk about grinding, we talk about hustling.

How many streams of income do you need? This side hustle and that side hustle, yeah, but that's culture.

But on the other side of culture is a is saying, hey, rest is important and you need to prioritize that yeah, and I mean, in light of everything that's going on and all of the like anxiety and stress that so many people are experiencing these days, you know it might be worth a shot. But anyway, we gave it a shot.

So that was last Saturday.

Yeah.

So when this will launch, it'll be a Saturday. Yeah, last Saturday, ok.

Yeah, so it's Friday now, so it was the Saturday that passed.

Got it.

So coming up to the next one. So we picked a day to sabbath and you're super excited yeah and then you got super weird about it well, okay, should we talk about why we chose saturday versus okay, go ahead, yeah go ahead. I was gonna have you. She gonna put the conversation on me. I said how should we? But I meant like should you? Okay, but I can do it.

Well, I'll tell you why I was an advocate of Saturday. One, because it's a good day. Two, because Sundays we have a lot of things that we do at church. During the week we have a lot of things to do for work and for other obligations, so Saturday kind of was just the optimal day for me.

But why did you choose saturday? Um, I think, similar reasons um I consider it sunday, because I think that's been the day that just traditionally people choose for the sabbath, but because, like you said, we do a lot of work for our church, it didn't feel like. The rest would be as full, as it needed to need it to be because church people stress you out.

Is that what you're saying?

no, I'm saying like, in order to prepare for the uh, whatever we have to do, yeah, to teach and that's another thing too.

I mean for sunday, that's a preparation for the week too. So if you're yeah, if you're sabbathing sunday, then that means your preparation not just for sunday, and the sabbath, but your preparation for the rest of the week needs to happen on saturday, so sat Saturday seemed like a much better day. Granted, there are activities we do on Saturdays to prepare for Sundays, but we now have to do those on Fridays, which is today, which I'm now remembering that I need to do.

Yeah, after we're done here, we got some more work to do, but I guess what we can talk about now is like the prep.

Okay, yeah. So. So Friday was coming fast and furious, and what we decided? To kind of put rules around.

Friday was here.

Literally. Yeah, friday was here. It was already here. So what we decided to do is, first of all, make rules as to what does it look like to Sabbath, what can we do, what can't we do, what do we want to try out doing? And one of the main things was to not put as big of a focus on the work of business on that particular day.

So, the work of business, the work of responsibilities, when it comes to things you do for your day job, things you do for your side hustles, things you do in preparation for even Sunday morning. The plan was to completely set aside Saturday, so you're not trying to get a Sunday school lesson together, trying to do all of this stuff. Instead, you can focus on God, you can focus on family and you can focus on rest. Yes, how did that go for you?

It was kind of stressful. It was kind of stressful mainly because I didn't think like I'm still not fully conditioned to think about it until the last minute, unfortunately procrastination was showing its head again. I'm bad at that. Y'all Just putting that out there. I need to be better. So procrastination is a thing, and I think it wasn't until our recording I was like, oh snap, that's tomorrow.

So, I got to do some things and I still needed to prep for a son for children's church. Um, there were a couple of things that just had to be done. Grocery shopping, all of that stuff Um wait, did I do that on Friday? I didn't. I think I'm going to try it this time, though, but anyway I at this time though, but anyway, it's today, right? I know, so we're gonna have to go have to. Good luck with that, okay anyway, but yeah.

So there were those type of things and I had to think about meals and all of that like where are we going like cook, cook or do? We have enough stuff in the, in the refrigerator that we can just like heat and eat and keep it moving.

Yeah that kind of thing. So um it was. I guess I appreciate the intention um, and it also made me think okay, like what things are actually important and what things are actually not important, like what has to get done today versus what can wait until, I guess, sunday. So, um, yeah, those were things that I was thinking through, and so. I guess it went okay but honestly it was a little bit stressful because of the late realization, Like I feel like I had gotten most of my work, like day job stuff done.

Y'all. I came in the room and she was curled up in a ball rocking back and forth, stop it. I'm kidding, stop it.

Stop it, but yeah. So I think that was okay, but you tend to have a lot more on your plate.

Yeah.

You have a capacity. I don't know. I would say you have a big, huge capacity to do a lot of things. I can do things, but maybe not all at once like you.

One thing you said was just about procrastination. Yeah, maybe not all at once, like you.

One thing you said was just about procrastination, and I think what the prioritization of a Sabbath has I don't want to say taught, because I haven't made life changes necessary, but it showed me is I'm very reactive to deadlines and what that means is if some things do on Saturday morning, while I'm working on it, I'm making sure it's done by Saturday morning. But what I'm really trying to put the thought around and figuring out if it makes sense is to start backing up those deadlines to where. If it's Sunday school or preparing for Sunday school, well, the deadline for Sunday school is not Sunday morning. But what would it look like if your deadline for Sunday school was Wednesday, yeah, and everything for Sunday was done Wednesday, and then you could even back it up as far as you want, to where you start to get one, two, three weeks ahead, where everything is fully studied, fully laid out, fully prepared for before you even get to that point. And how much more freeing would that be?

And so.

I think just moving it back from a lot of things being prepared on Sunday or for Sunday to even moving it back to Friday is like a first baby step kind of you know, kind of working it out. I mean, granted, this last week I did it Friday going into Saturday that 2 am period deadlines differently and to approach them with a little bit more planning so that I fit them into the context of my life versus my life, having to fit around what's required of me.

Okay, so that's great, okay, and that's ideal. So what actually happened?

Oh, what happened was? I was up at 1am trying to get stuff done and no, actually I think I started. I started working on everything like that evening, friday evening, yeah and then I was so tired I can't remember why that I took a nap and then I got up really late at 10.

It was probably because, like, the whole weekend happened. Yeah, instead of Friday.

And then you would ask me hey, did you get all your stuff done? And I rolled my eyes at you and sucked my teeth and walked out the room.

And I went and sat down and watched TV and I was like I guess I needed to get some stuff done, but I had to make sure that you weren't watching and I was second to my office to get some more work done.

Okay, yeah, but I mean, like I said it, it did not go as planned, as anything you plan to try to do better ever does. But, but what I think the the good part about it it was difficult to prepare for. But now what I want to talk about is how did the day actually go? Was it worth it? Did you enjoy it? Yeah, is it a train wreck? What was your actual saturday like?

I thought it was great okay I enjoyed it um it was, but like it was just like so much more intentionally focused on, like our household okay and like the, the building or developing other relationships inside the home. So like what does that mean in england? Yeah, so like spending time with you. First of all, we slept in late.

Yeah, hey, that was great and for you that's usually like six yeah, I think you were in bed to like nine I was gonna say eight, but somewhere between there eight and nine, okay, which is still like way late for me I know most people are like it's time I wake up no, for me.

I'm like usually up by like 5 30 yeah and so that was great, that was amazing and like just took the day real slow in the beginning. The kids got up, they came in the room and they were just like hungry as usual and, um, it was like all right go grab some fruit you know, like just go and play with your toys, like just don't bother me right now.

We're, we're we're still resting kids getting up like watching cartoons, like that kind of feel right yeah, and that was really nice.

Um, and then, uh, once we did get up you know we ate some breakfast and whatnot and I think the first thing we did was play games because our we told our kids like what do you want to do on big jenga saturday?

yeah, what is it? Math jumbo jenga. It's like the the big, huge blocks the little, the jenga blocks where I hit you with it like you're going to sleep. Yeah, it's like a legit yeah.

Maybe not two by fours, but yeah yeah, those big old blocks where you can play jenga with them and they wanted to play that so we played jenga a few times then we played what was.

The other game was it hippos. Yeah, hungry hippos just like stuff that we usually wouldn't have time for quite yeah.

We would just kind of yeah, we'll play it later hopefully you forget that that kind of thing.

Um, but like there was another game we played too, I remember, but then I think we spent some time outside too, we went outside.

They you know. Oh, we rode the bikes, yeah we went. We haven't pulled up like our bikes were dusty. We haven't rode our bikes in months yeah, and so we got to ride the bikes and we rode through our neighborhood in the neighboring neighborhood um what other things did we do? I think we took a nap like yeah it was just like a lot of it was a lot of rest a lot of family time um and I think our kids loved it yeah, they wanted more.

Yeah, like, can we play more games, can we do more?

and so it showed us how much they enjoy spending time with us so how fun that was all that sounds great, yeah, but the question of people want to know yeah, what's the? Question over here. You have the preparation for friday yeah, to set everything aside for saturday yeah, and you have the experience of, I guess, sleeping late and playing board games and all this other stuff you did yeah was the preparation worth the day yeah, that I was like oh, I can purposely not think about that stuff and didn't, so I was like it'll be there on Sunday, um, so yeah, for me it was worth it.

Uh, because I don't. I really think that if we don't, like, if we decide to go back, you know we're not going to do the Sabbath thing anymore like if we decide that I think those opportunities for really connecting with one another and with our children. Um, they just aren't prioritized, if that makes sense. Okay, um, like they happen, but they will happen less frequently because it's not like we have a day for that.

So what I think I hear you saying is the Sabbath for you is a family thing and not a God thing.

That's a very good point.

One thing as we were talking, I was like oh yeah.

I actually did spend time, like once I got up and I think, the kids maybe I don't remember if it was before or after them, but I did get up and I did do some prayer time and I actually was studying about the Sabbath and I was like what are we supposed to do? What are we supposed to do with this day? So I actually did some more reading on that and some praying.

I was just thanking God because you know we now, we had the opportunity to do this and, and even throughout the day I was trying to check in, we were riding through the neighborhood and I was like God thank you so much for this beautiful day to be able to do this. Internally, nobody knew I was doing it, but I was taking that opportunity to connect with God throughout the day. I want to be even more intentional.

Wait, we're not there yet, but I do want to be more intentional about that when we do it again, because I think that that do it again Okay, because I think that that can go deeper.

Okay, so you got the most out of your family time, it sounds. It sounds like your family time definitely increased in priority. And you did prioritize your time with God, but you want to do a better job of that next time around.

Yeah, definitely Okay cool.

Yeah, all right, I love it a better job of that?

yeah, yeah, definitely cool, yeah, all right, yeah, so I guess for you, what was the experience like for you, um, and and did? Did it go as you expected it to? Um?

I was expecting to be able to float or something like really, yeah, you spending like all this time thinking about god. Like I should be able to float.

Did you think about God?

No, not that much.

Maybe you've got to think about. God more so you can float. Okay, that's true. I mean, I don't know if that's a thing you know, maybe try it out, see what happens.

No, but what I do, I do. I'm similar to you in that. Well, I think you tried and put forth some effort to spend more time with God. I didn't at all. Um, it was mostly about family for me. I mean, I think, because I'd stayed up so late to get everything done, I kind of woke up on my day, rest tired, so I may have like short circuited myself a little bit. I think there might've been some gratefulness in it, but I'm not going to be here and be like.

Oh, I had this amazing moment with God that that wasn't me, but mostly because I just I don't think I prioritized or thought about it. It was more like, okay, let's play these board games, and at first it was a little bit more patronizingly for me but it was actually fun, like once you get into it, like to see the boys and just to spend some time and not have to run from here to there because our schedule is very run from here to there.

We finish, finish with work, we go get the boys. We then come down to the well, we do exercise classes, we go back home, we get ready for bed and repeat.

But, to just stop and just be able to have a moment stacking up some pieces of wood and knocking them over, like it was really, really fun. I enjoy that family part of it but, as you said, I do desire to spend more time with God, purposefully, so I could float, perhaps, but just to see like I'm I'm all about. If I'm going to try something, I want to get what's promised or what's expected out of it, and so I felt like I got what was expected based upon my effort. So I put effort towards setting aside time for family and I got that.

What great would you give yourself?

For what part?

The whole. Thing. I think for family.

I give myself a great strong B For Sabbath, for Sabbath, what does that mean?

For the rest, for the intentional time, of God.

For the rest, I give myself a, b.

Okay for the intentional time of God part.

I give myself a strong, progressing, upwardly focused d plus, and that's d as in David, but it's, it's progress, it has opportunity for growth, it's well, that's for sure, but yeah, because it can't.

I mean, I guess it could get worse it could get worse.

don't take my credit, it get worse. I said my little prayer when I got out of bed, did you yeah?

Lord, thank you, that's good. Yeah, that's better than most.

Yeah, I was going to say most, but I didn't spend any time like look because I, well, it sounds bad, but I didn't, because I had done all my Sunday school preparation the day before. I don't quota got my quota.

This is my god quota. That's it I'm done.

I'm just gonna be honest with you, like no, I appreciate it. I'll be like stressing, like okay, well, I got this sermon half written. Like what, what do I need to change god, but shoot I appreciate your honesty.

That's that's, that's wild.

Yeah, all right, we're gonna so a d but, a d pointing upward a, d pointing up.

So overall, if you average out all your scores, that's like a c oh, that's bad yeah it's passing, I guess okay, but not yeah, we strive for excellence, yeah okay, yeah, so I gotta put it like that. I was just wondering.

I think I give myself a, I give myself a b minus well, you're getting an f right now for being close to your microphone b minus okay so so okay.

So there's things that we can improve on yeah absolutely all right, so let's talk about that part so today's friday, today's friday time to start the cycle all over again tick, tick, tick.

Yes, okay so what can we do?

I asked you, first go ahead.

But, ladies, first right no no um well, I think for one is, and it's kind of shot for this week but preparing earlier so I'm not so tired going into it trying to catch up like feeling like I can actually rest through it, because I didn't spend the last six hours trying to rush and prime for it do you think we can like make lists for the this week? Actually one cool thing and this is not a commercial, we do not get paid for this, but we just got like the little chore screen we got.

Oh, yeah, that would be good to do weekly and granted, we can. We don't have to set a specific day when it's due, but we could put all the stuff that needs to get done on there and then try to get that done before friday yeah, yeah yeah, so that will help us keep track and realize like, oh, we really need to get that done.

Friday's coming. The kids have been doing good with like checking off their stuff yeah but you really haven't had anything assigned I assigned things to myself you go back and check the record yeah, I got some things done this week, okay not a, not like a not like brag worthy, but I got some things done she has stuff on there like wake up check.

It was like you want me to tell you what was on there. I had grocery shopping on there.

I had um picking up the dog food I had um I need to add some stuff to your list I needed to do the calendar for the well. Um, did you do that? Um, no, I'm still.

It's one of my friday tasks it figures that when I ask it's like yeah, because you knew the other things got done okay, that's why you didn't ask, that's why you oh he's see him trolling me over here but, you know what, um, I think that's a good idea. Or for me, like I am, like, am, like, oh, I can use this day to actually plan out like the week, not just for what I need to get done by Sunday but get done for the rest of the week and that way I can start knocking stuff out. I've worked pretty well with lists and that way I can start being ahead of the game, but oh, oh, did you find any?

Well, I guess we didn't talk about the things you want to finish talking about the things you want to change, but I am curious were there any unexpected benefits that came from it?

unexpected. I don't think I. I thought it sounds so bad. I think I would. I don't think that I thought I would enjoy like just doing nothing or just doing random stuff with the kids as much as I did. It was really fun like just pulling things out, just doing random stuff with the kids as much as I did. It was really fun like just pulling things out of the Jenga tower. That was really awesome and even though it was hot and I don't really like the heat, but going out to ride bikes and just talking and, you know, just playing around with the kids, I think that was awesome. We also went to Rays on the River.

No, not Rays on the River, that's Atlanta Shaggy's the phrase on a river. No, not Atlanta shaggies. Shaggies on the res. That was really cool. That was nice. Yeah, yeah, sat outside and, like, looked at the alligators and the boats and stuff. Yeah, that was cool. So yeah, so that okay good, so that was a benefit. I was thinking about one thing that was unexpected for me I felt like men more mentally clear and I felt like I was able to think about how amazing your husband is among other things I was able to think about, like just some of the creative things that I need to do tell me more.

What does that mean?

um well, I mean even the conversations that we've been having this week around things to do here at the well and all of that I don't think I spend time thinking about that, or I haven't really been able to vocalize some of the things that. I've been thinking about If I had thought about it, because my brain is just constantly like on go.

I hear you saying is you taking dedicated and specific time to rest, opened up the thought space to for you to be able to be creative? And quite frankly, achieve some of the things that you need to do anyway yeah, I mean, I know.

I mean you can look at the science or whatever like there are literally studies that talk about the need for rest in the creative process and I mean we we do a lot of creating of things we not just we hear, but just like coming up with new ideas for business and podcast ideas at all.

Like there's a lot of brain work that happens behind a lot of what we do, um and so giving ourself that space and that that opportunity to like rest from the work. I think opened up an opportunity for there to be more creativity and I ended up knocking out like some things that I needed to take care of on Monday.

I ended up doing that on Sunday. It was just like I know. I was like who? Am I okay, go email. Delayed delivery but it was written on Sunday night for Monday morning Things that I would have not done before, just with more intentional planning for the week ahead. So that's that's what I. That's what I experienced this week. So all in all, and maybe it has something to do with the Sabbath it sounds like it was worth it. For me.

Is it something you're going to keep doing?

Yeah, especially if I can like be a better version of myself, like the pre-planning and the pre-work. No, I'm going to stop.

That would be good, nope, I'm going to stop you there.

Okay, go ahead.

Because so often, like there are things we are supposed to do, that we know we're a better version of ourself because of it yeah but because the price is to is much more expensive than we want to pay we allow those things to stop. So I reject that. Just because it makes you a better person, that makes it worthwhile. What about it makes it worthwhile to you that actually makes you want to do all the extra work necessary to make space for seven yeah, I really think there were no downsides.

I mean, yeah, we had to plan ahead, but that's not a downside. That's like I need to do that anyway. There's more time with my husband, more time with my children. There's no downside like have being more prepared and having more creative mind space. There's no downside. I haven't experienced the downside, I don't know like what for what? Reason would I stop?

I think, yeah, you need an extra day to get stuff done.

I'm finding that I don't need an extra day to get things done.

I'm finding that.

I need to get stuff done now and, um, I think it, by having that extra space and that pre-planning and prep time, mentally it's gonna help with like the like I feel like the the start is probably the hardest thing, but the maintenance will become easier as we get into the rhythm of oh saturday's coming, let me get my stuff done before friday, not one friday before friday okay, yeah that's. That's my opinion of it but, what for you?

is it worth continuing? Is it worth doing? It was the cost, did the? Did the benefits outweigh the cost or the cost outweighed benefits? This is gonna sound bad, but it's gonna get cleaned up in the end I would say the cost outweighed benefits.

This is gonna sound bad, but it's gonna get cleaned up. In the end I would say the cost did not outweigh the benefit. At this stage, like the amount of work it took to start the sabbath process was like wow, that was a lot to get done and it took a lot and it even. It took so much to the point where it impacted the actual sabbath. So I think, going from zero to sabbath, no, but the continued focus on the sabbath, I think yes, does that make sense?

yeah, it's kind of like. It's kind of like going up a hill or something like to go from zero to one mile an hour is the hardest part, but then, once you get moving, it's a lot easier and so I think from this point forward it makes more sense. But everything that had to get done last week was crazy.

To try to get all that stuff done well, do you think that you have to do all those things that you did? Last week this week, or are there established processes?

now. I think they all still need to get done, but with better planning I'm not trying to get them done between 8 PM and 3 AM. Like it's not that much when you have a whole week to do it, but when you're like, oh crap, this starts in four hours, then it's like poor planning created poor performance. So if if it's not planned and if I'm just trying to get it done the last second, then no, it's not worth it. I would rather be sleep. But if I actually do what I'm supposed to do, then I think the benefits of that day are super, super awesome and I don't see myself looking back when the kids are older, being like man. I wish I would have tiled a floor instead of spent time with my boys. Like I really enjoyed that. I really enjoy spending time with you, all of those things.

So you enjoy spending time with me yes, I do oh that's why I like recording this podcast.

Yeah, this is like the best thing.

It's the best thing on our to-do list, I think probably second for me I'm curious what's first I don't know, is that pg? Of course not what else we got on this list well, um, um, okay, things that you we talked about, things that you would change as far as pre-planning, Are there things that you would change? About the day itself.

No, I think well, the the one. Thing. I want to do and I've been asking the question. I don't think the kids get it, but I really want them to have like feel like a piece of it, like yeah something you want to do outside of Chuck. E Cheese every week outside of like whatever it is that they always say every week but, um, just like, feel like it's a part of the day that you get to plan something that you're looking forward to yeah.

I think, um, as we go like back earlier in the school year we had, we were at one school, we didn't really have a good of an experience there, um, and we kind of went down this path of like negative encouragement and taking stuff away, and that didn't really work.

Yeah.

But I think, with positive encouragement and positive reinforcement, hey, we have this thing coming up. We really want you to be a part of it. You're bought into it. I think that would be a really positive experience.

So if there's something I would want to improve on, it's just the kids feeling more ownership. Understanding the idea at large we really haven't explained it to them, yeah. Understanding the idea at large because we really haven't explained it to them, yeah. But then also taking more ownership of the idea to say this is what I want to do as a part of it, and to celebrate that and have fun doing those things and to even plan ahead with.

You know, they have those subscription boxes or something like some fun activity yeah we can do in the backyard or something just to spend time together and not it not always be about work.

Yeah, I can dig that. Yeah, absolutely.

So, but we want to hear from you definitely, like I hope and I wonder if any of you have been thinking about or considering doing a Sabbath or a rest day, and, if you have already, and if you did this along with us, what was your experience like? Did you were you able to stick with it throughout the whole time and were there any benefits from it? We encourage you to drop it down in the comments.

We'd love to read what you guys are going through and what you've been doing and if you've gotten anything positive out of this experience. Yeah, so, um, I just want to tell you what the things I plan to do differently okay, what you're gonna do differently? Well, I told you I want to spend, like, more intentional time with god throughout the day not just like hey morning, we're done.

God check, got the god stuff done no, I don't want to do it like that, okay, um so like just maybe incorporating it more into our conversations, even the conversations with the kids, because I think that helps to make it like real, real yeah and understand like god is not just like imaginary superhero yeah yeah but instead like this is a relationship and these are the things that we do. So that's one of my things I'm doing with this whole social media thing and if I need to cut that out for the day going bless it bless it. I don't know, I'm still. I probably need to do it. Um, I'm not sure if I'm there yet you talked about you talked.

Well, you had made a statement. During like three quarters of the way through that, you felt like I was on my phone way too much, which I didn't agree with, because I didn't think I was on my phone that much but for dinner that night I just left it in the car. I don't know if you noticed or anything. I was hoping to get brownie points for it you did. Yeah, see, you didn't even I didn't know, didn't even notice, but I left it in the car.

Okay, I obviously didn't get any brownie points for it.

That's not happening again but I think that may be something that maybe I'll just notice it this time.

Sorry you missed it one time shot but maybe that's something that we can do. You know, have leave our phone somewhere yeah and kind of make that more intentional, which kind of takes care of your social media a little bit yeah, but or at least like restricted hours, maybe like something like that but it's just more about, I think, something noticeably done so that you don't miss out on my brownie points you see, I did it too.

I see you did it too.

Okay, you're gonna see me the first to touch it all right, okay, one, let's go, I'll leave it here tomorrow yes, it does make sense.

So, but yeah, I, I thought it was great, I, I want to continue, okay. Um, I think we should continue and it'll develop over time. So maybe after a few weeks, maybe a couple months or so, maybe we can revisit the conversation and see if there are any marked changes in our life, any benefits that we saw that we could.

If we start the video y'all and there's no table here and I'm floating, you know I'm doing it right, that's my goal Levitation, Levitation.

His goal is to float. I mean, all right, go for it.

You know who's to say it can't happen. You know, when I was growing up I thought there was a book of levitation, but it's lamentation Anyways. Thank you so much for joining in with us for conversations at the well. We hope you got something out of this conversation. We hope you are taking the challenge to go and try to instill a day of a day of rest or a Sabbath day in and of your own time.

We think it'll be beneficial, been beneficial to us, maybe beneficial to you yeah, so thank you again for joining us.

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