Speaker 1: 0:00

Hey there and welcome to Conversations at the Well. In this episode, we're going to be talking about our family vacation. That was kind of a vacation, but not really, but kind of yeah, let's call it a trip, family trip. We're going to talk about our family trip, spending time with family, spending time going back to our hometowns and everything in between. Stick with us. We will see you at the well. We will see you at the well. Before we get started with our next episode, I want to encourage you, if you're watching us on YouTube, to go down to the little thumbs up button, like the video and get subscribed so you get notifications whenever we drop new content. Also, if you are joining in with us on Facebook or on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, make sure that you're subscribed there, Leave a five-star review as well as drop a comment so we know that you are listening. Welcome back for another episode of conversations at the well. We've been gone for a little bit, but we are finally back and over this time.

Speaker 2: 0:58

What were we doing?

Speaker 1: 0:59

we were traveling world traveling it felt like we made a lot of stops we went from here in mississippi and we drove over to atlanta yep, and we stayed there for a day, just overnight, overnight. And then we flew up to philadelphia yep, and then we drove down to delaware yep, we drove down to where?

Speaker 2: 1:20

do we go delaware? Yeah, drove down to Drove down to Dover. Dover.

Speaker 1: 1:24

And we drove over to Ocean City.

Speaker 2: 1:28

We stopped in Rehoboth, stopped in Rehoboth and then we stayed there for about a week. Ocean City.

Speaker 1: 1:32

Came back to Dover.

Speaker 2: 1:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:34

Went back to Ocean City.

Speaker 2: 1:36

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:36

And then went down to Salisbury.

Speaker 2: 1:38

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:38

And then went back up to Philly philly, yeah, flew back to atlanta.

Speaker 2: 1:47

Yep, it drove to mississippi it sounds like a lot, but it didn't feel like it in. It did to you, okay. His eyes are like no, it felt like.

Speaker 1: 1:52

It felt like I was gonna say it felt like a lot because I was the one that did the driving, but no, you drove back the entire way yeah so I can't use that excuse, but it felt like a lot for me it did.

Speaker 1: 2:01

But anyways, we were doing this entire family trip thing, um, because my grandfather had a surprise 83rd birthday. Yes, so family from all over the united states went back to her hometown of dover, delaware, to celebrate his life and celebrate his legacy, and celebrate him, um, in a great, in a great celebration yeah, it was really cool because, like I mean, it felt kind of family reunion style, where people came from like well, us came from mississippi north carolina virginia, virginia um, just like all over and um.

Speaker 2: 2:41

Those type of gatherings typically don't happen for happy reasons, right it's my mic, it's not right. Oh okay, yeah, this is better, yeah okay, um, those type of things really don't. We don't typically have them like for like happy occasions.

Speaker 2: 2:54

Usually y'all know it's a funeral right, yeah but this was an experience where we got to like have a celebration, not a celebration of life as we call funerals sometimes, but we it was like an actual celebration of life, celebrating a birthday. And it wasn't like a milestone birthday and that it was 83, but it was just like we don't 83 how many?

Speaker 1: 3:17

we don't know how many birthdays you have left and it was good to just have everyone in the room and I'm sure, from his perspective, to think that I pretty much had a role in everybody in the room getting here or being a part, whether it was through blood or whether it was through their children, his children, and it was just a great celebration. I got a chance to see my cousins. My cousins are all over Well, actually some of them are still in Dover, but I'm a few of them have moved on and with their careers and things like that. So having a chance to see them one of them was a DJ, the other one was on the microphone, so we were doing some line dancing it was just a really really good got a pastor, cousin man I got all kind of family yeah and I had not been back to my hometown of Delaware, for it's been almost since we've been married maybe it was really early in our marriage when you took me to dover.

Speaker 1: 4:08

Yeah, so I don't. I mean, there's not a lot that's still back in dover, so I don't go back that often, um, but it's. You know, it's always kind of good to get a chance to catch up with people and really reconnect with the part of my life that you've really stayed disconnected from. Like I'm a whole different person. In their eyes, they're going to be Troy versus Vernon, and they remember me as some small kid versus a grown person. So, and and it's always good to have your, your children, give them an opportunity to reconnect with other sides of the family too, which I think is good.

Speaker 2: 4:39

Yeah, and I think I mean we wanted to go. I wanted to go and I thought mostly for the kids, because we don't get to see that side of the family very often and just like the extended family, and it is his grandfather on his mom's side, but it's our children's great grandfather, and so like four generations to be in the same room and interestingly enough there were a lot of other great grandchildren also in the room. But it just is an incredible thought and incredible, just experience. I think if I were him to have seen just like four generations of my bloodline in one room.

Speaker 1: 5:26

Yeah, I think it's awesome too that it was for him, and what I mean by that is he's a really steady person. He didn't get too excited.

Speaker 1: 5:34

He didn't get too angry, like he's just right in the middle and to kind of see that moment where he was surprised and he still didn't do much or say much, but just to know that a little heart was beating faster, or he was excited because he's not a very emotive person right but I think it was amazing just to kind of have that experience, to get the videos and the photos from that and just to spend that time with them, which I think was really great that was really cool, so, um, I guess, even before then, though, so I'm I'm calling this trip the tour of the elders oh interesting. How did you get there?

Speaker 2: 6:07

because on this trip we stopped at my parents house. So that's our children's grandparents, my parents, so they're elders, but like next generation, from us they're not, oh, just like the other generation before us so like elders, in respect, not age.

Speaker 1: 6:26

Yeah, I'm with you, okay.

Speaker 2: 6:27

And then we saw Pop Pop White. So, he's the one that had the birthday party. His mom and Pop were there as well, and so that's like our children's grandparents on his side there as well, and so that's like our children's grandparents on his side, um, and then we went down to Salisbury.

Speaker 1: 6:50

Salisbury, and so in Salisbury are my grandparents on my dad's side, so we had a chance to stop and spend some time with them, and so that's, that's the kids. Great grandparents. Your side, my side, so that was really, really cool to get them, and I don't think the last time we went verne was about one.

Speaker 2: 7:09

it was the first birthday right to well to salisbury no, we were actually. Well, that's when we oh. Salisbury, yes, but when we went to, we went to. Um, maybe that was the last time we were in dover, because we stayed with or we went to on shale's house and Vern and Aaron were there okay, so when?

Speaker 1: 7:28

so it was his second time being in their house, aaron's first time, but Aaron had met them at Easter Thanksgiving um, some kind of celebration, yeah, a bunch of food.

Speaker 1: 7:40

So I assumed it was Thanksgiving. Well, maybe not, but anyways, they had a chance to meet their um meet, I guess, from a knowledge perspective where they're old enough to kind of understand and recognize people. Um, they had a chance to meet them and kind of hang out, which I thought was really really awesome for them to see their grandchildren on that side, or great-grandchildren rather great-grandparents, great who the children saw, or the grand great saw the great grandparents had a chance to see their great grandchildren.

Speaker 1: 8:07

There you go as they've grown up and matured, which I think was really special. And I think one of the great things that I don't think we take advantage of as often as we should is just a chance to sit down with these people and ask them about their life and their experiences. And I think if you dedicate the time to those conversations, you'll find and receive much more wisdom than you would ever expect that you would have gotten Just through their life experiences. And it just takes asking a question about you know, how did you get here? What did your you know what brought you to this area geographically, or maybe what was a difficult time in your life that you had to overcome. And I think those conversations that we were able to have through this tour of elders tour of elders was super helpful in that respect.

Speaker 2: 8:54

Yeah, I think the way you asked those questions that's like an interview. It wasn't really like. It was just like a conversation, not a tell me about your first time working a job and you ran into a challenge.

Speaker 1: 9:07

So the culture of my family outside of my mom is very kind of stoic. I would say like people don't ask a lot of questions, they're not very like. Hey, tell me about this or tell me about that. There's a lot of like don don't ask, don't tell kind of stuff. But it's interesting when my wife comes in because she has no understanding of this couth or how things are going.

Speaker 1: 9:34

So she's just asking these questions. I'm like, huh, I wonder that too. Let me listen and see what you have to say. And so she actually led a lot of those conversations and questions and I learned a lot that I had no idea about just because she was ignorant enough to ask the question.

Speaker 2: 9:50

Ignorant maybe, but also, I think, more intentional, and the reason why is because I don't have any grandparents.

Speaker 1: 9:58

That's true.

Speaker 2: 9:59

All my grandparents have passed away and there are questions that I wish I had asked. Grandparents have passed away and there are questions that I wish I had asked, and so having the opportunity to ask your grandparents questions is like really. I like that a lot.

Speaker 1: 10:12

I think it's that, but I also just think it's who you are too Really, because I don't, I don't know that I would feel regret of, oh, I wish I would have asked these questions, like I would just be like okay and keep moving. So I think I think part of it is you're kind of living vicariously, but I think a lot of it is just who you are and being very um, not inquisitive what's the word? Very curious and actually asking the question that make you curious. Like I think I'm curious, but a lot of those questions that in a curiosity area that matter, I probably wouldn't ask for one reason or another. Now, if it was just some random person, I ask you anything, but I think in those areas in which it would matter, I probably wouldn't be the one, the first one to ask, but you just I'm going to ask because I want to know.

Speaker 2: 11:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but those conversations were really good, and this is mostly with your grandparents on your dad's side, because we had so at the birthday party.

Speaker 1: 11:10

everybody was there, so we didn't get a lot of one-on-one time it's kind of like a wedding with a head table and you know everybody kind of flowing around, but it wasn't a lot of just quiet time to talk yeah, so this is with your dad's parents, and so we just we happened.

Speaker 1: 11:27

It was actually our first time there with them where there weren't other family around, I think mature you get in life, the less not holiday time you spend with those people you care about, and it's great, because we should spend the holidays and we should celebrate and do whatever. But there's also something that you're missing out on just the opportunity to have these one-on-one conversations, to dive a little deeper, like even at Thanksgiving it's. It's great you get a chance to watch the ball game, but how much time are you really spending connecting? And I think that's something that's super valuable that you know. Quite frankly, we need to do more of um, because you know it's great to make time around the holidays, but you, you only get but a piece and you're sharing whomever with so many other people and I also like that.

Speaker 2: 12:23

We were not, like you mentioned, like watch the game together and that's like an activity to do. But I think sometimes that activity takes away from the actual connection of people. And, um, of course, we know in like this day and time and in our just culture, when we spend a great deal of time in front of somebody's screen or listening to someone's voice thanks for listening today um, so there's, you know, there's value in that too, but like having those conversate, like actually connecting with the people who are in the same room as you, is also something of that we should value.

Speaker 2: 13:02

But we don't value enough and typically we experience, you know, with loss. There's losses happening all over and people, people die before we are ever either expecting or before that we want them to, and there's always like, oh, I just wish I would have said this or asked that or, you know, done these things together and and so, um, I really this was not even our intention for this trip, but I'm really glad that we had that time of like just focused connection.

Speaker 1: 13:36

I know, one thing that I got out of it is, um, you know, being an elder, um having a chance to sit down and talk with him about just his experience as a pastor. You know, he's been in ministry for seems like ever not ever, but ever, and so just kind of your whole life.

Speaker 1: 13:54

Yeah, my whole life and probably even more than that. But just having an opportunity to talk to him about what that process has been like, how it started, like what were you doing before, talk to him about what that process has been like how it started, like what were you doing before I mean, our parents and grandparents had this whole other life before the responsibility of family came about and like being able to ask about what that looks like and what that experience has been like, is something that was really instructive and kind of gave a different perspective through perspective about what we seem to think is hard, because in every generation's life gets a little bit easier, but there are still hard things that they experience. But when you put your heart next to someone of a previous generation's heart, it's like huh, I guess I do have it made, huh, yeah.

Speaker 2: 14:36

And I also thought I love that conversation too. So, just like, broadly speaking, some of the things that we learned was, um, about his grandfather's calling and like what that experience was like for him. Um, and then also, when he was, uh, going to this the church that he pastors now, um, what that experience was like, and that was a. It was interesting because they shared like the ups and the downs, which I appreciate. Don't just tell me like all the good stuff yeah tell me the all of it so that I can.

Speaker 2: 15:14

It helps first of all.

Speaker 1: 15:16

It helps the person to become more human human, but also can give you insight as to how, to how, how to get through different challenges that you face, what to expect I mean you know, sometimes we think that every great thing or great decision is supposed to be great and even when we watch our parents or grandparents move through life, you know from the sheltered view that we get it looked great. But to understand that there was a completely other side of it that they were dealing with and you know, maybe even like personally, where they were wondering whether they measured up or things like that they felt these things yeah.

Speaker 1: 15:53

So it helps us, as you know youth, or you know young adults, no matter where you are on that spectrum. It helps us recognize that, no matter what we're feeling, we're not abnormal.

Speaker 2: 16:04

We're all going spectrum. It helps us recognize that, no matter what, we're feeling we're not abnormal.

Speaker 1: 16:06

Yeah, going through the same stuff, yeah, but you know, with the wisdom of the knowledge that someone went before you a lot of times, that helps you in your own journey right and there were.

Speaker 2: 16:14

You know, we talk about faith all the time and I thought that was such a cool thing. Just to hear like their faith walk through those really tough times was so cool. I was like, oh my gosh, I love this conversation because it was like so encouraging to me, um, because I was like, oh, they've been through hard things, like really like, if we had to face that right now, I don't, would we have been prepared to walk through it in the same way, um, and get through it without, like I think we would, I think we would have gotten through it, but I just it would have been really really tough, I think.

Speaker 1: 16:52

And I think what maturity teaches you is there's a difference between getting through it and getting through it, I guess correctly, there you go. Or with the grace that it takes. There you go and I would have certainly gotten through it.

Speaker 1: 17:09

But you know, my first thing is like okay, I don't need you which is not a good perspective to have but to be able to, I'm sure, deal with those thoughts, deal with those opinions, deal with okay, I don't have to be here for this particular reason and still come out making the right decision. I think that's where the lesson, or that's where the wisdom lies to be able to say there is a right way and a wrong way to do things and, you know, to stay consistent and stay correct to the best of your ability, even when those around you may not be choosing that same path.

Speaker 2: 17:41

Yeah, yeah, it was, it was was great. So that was like one of the conversations, but there were other conversations that you had, I think, that were interesting and perhaps impactful, and this was just like around just some of the other families. So we talked about the elders yes.

Speaker 1: 18:04

Yes, but there were also aunts and uncles, aunts, cousins, so a crazy thing you know I've been.

Speaker 1: 18:13

After college.

Speaker 1: 18:14

I went to college in North Carolina, so I moved away from Dover, went to North Carolina and then, after college, I moved down to Atlanta where I've spent the majority of my life, before we moved here to Mississippi. I moved down to Atlanta, where I've spent the majority of my life before we moved here to Mississippi, and so throughout that time I've been pretty disconnected from the Delaware family, if you will maybe being able to count on one hand how many times I've been back to the state of Dover and Delaware and for me, you know, there's a huge family, mostly of which I've been somewhat disconnected from. But to be in that room with people and see person after person walk up and say, hey, what you've been doing or what I've seen you do on Facebook, has been super encouraging. Or just to share some encouraging words about what they've been able to see or how our family's growing, things like that it was much more impactful than I thought. Cause first, first and foremost, I don't take um positive words. Well, would you agree with that? Yeah, or you don't?

Speaker 2: 19:14

you just don't, you just I don't know if it's that you don't take it. Well, if you just don't take it, yeah, you kind of like, okay, I just move on to the next thing, because I just I don't know how to respond or what to say and it makes me feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 1: 19:28

So I'm usually changing the subject or something. But to be able to have those conversations with people who haven't talked to in a long time and just hear their encouraging words and just hey, we I've listened to your podcast and it's amazing and you know, you two are so awesome together and it's just like wow, First and foremost, these people who don't have to really care and really care people that you have no idea, that you're inspiring, and so I thought that was amazing, that was encouraging, and I was telling Desiree on the drive home like I know I feel something about it, but I don't really know what it is that I'm feeling, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2: 20:17

Have you been able to name it yet?

Speaker 1: 20:19

No, I haven't spent any more time thinking about it because I think it's easier to just like move forward. Yeah, maybe the words encouraging, I don't know, but it was. There were some feelings there, but I don't deal with feelings.

Speaker 2: 20:32

I felt something. What did I feel? I don't know, but I felt something yeah no, but I and I, I appreciated it, because I don't think that you often get that kind of feedback, like I can tell you all day oh you're great, you're great, you're great, but you're like you're supposed to say is great because you're my wife. But to hear from other people, even people that you hadn't haven't connected with as often over the years.

Speaker 1: 20:59

But you don't have to say. You could just walk up and say hey, troy, and keep it moving, like hey Troy and keep it moving like you have to spend time.

Speaker 2: 21:06

No people went out of their way to make sure that you knew that they were watching, that they were listening, and that is what you have been saying and doing has meant something to you, and I was. I think for that alone, the trip was worth it, like, because I think I think you need need that and, um, it's also interesting to retire, like to get that returning to your hometown, because you left one way, you came back differently, but the but um, and also seeing that the seeds that have been sown are like not just they don't land right here, they don't land at the camera, they go beyond that and they go to, they're reaching these far places. We know, at least in Delaware, we know Virginia, we know North Carolina and I'm probably missing somebody else's state, but there are people who are the seeds. Are they're, they're not falling short, they're, they're going out and you're getting something back.

Speaker 1: 22:05

Which I think, for each one of you who are listeners out there, I think it's something that is instructive that, whether there's a camera in front of your life or not, whether there's a microphone in front of your mouth or not, your life is an inspiration to someone else, and people are watching you and looking at you, and you are inspiring them with every decision you make. I know you sometimes feel like you make the wrong decision. I know you sometimes feel like nobody's watching, or maybe your audience isn't as large as you would like it, but you are impactful, whether you realize it or not, and so what you do with that is what you decide. But for those of you who are wishing I was further or wishing that you could do more, it's completely possible that you are impacting and moving the needle in ways that you don't even know to recognize at this particular point in time.

Speaker 2: 22:57

Yeah, and even people who may have thought does my life matter? Does it impact someone else? And here's the thing there are people that you have had maybe a peripheral relationship with, you've kind of maybe brushed. You may have known each other by name, or maybe you didn't know each other by name, but when something bad occurred to that person, you still felt it. And so, similarly, even if there are people on the peripheral of your life or people who are very well connected to you, what happens to you impacts others. And so don't ever feel like your life is not of value, don't ever feel like your life is not of impact, because just the way that humans are made, we are, we are connected. And no, you may not mean everything to everyone, but you mean something to someone. So I want to encourage you, like if you happen to be in a, in a this kind of turned dark, but if you happen to be in a dark place.

Speaker 2: 24:04

If you happen to be in a dark place and you've been questioning your life or questioning your value, um, this is a message to say that your life does in fact matter. And we need you here and we want you to continue, and we want you to keep putting out the effort because, although it may not have grown to what you want it to be yet, the seeds are planted. And keep plowing, keep doing what you need to do, take care of it and eventually you will see the growth. Eventually you will see the fruit. So yeah, that was not how I saw this conversation going, but there we go.

Speaker 1: 24:41

I think there's a difference between what we see and what's there to be seen, and what I mean by that is that's real deep.

Speaker 2: 24:51

Wait a minute.

Speaker 1: 24:54

There's a difference between what we see and what is there to be seen. Okay, so, for example, like you guys can't see, but we're in the back of the well and there's a whole lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 2: 25:04

I'm glad you all can't see that.

Speaker 1: 25:06

So there's a difference between what you can see through the camera and what's there to be seen in these tables and chairs, boxes, six Christmas trees and tools and nail guns and everything Ottoman like what's there to be seen. But it's all about your perspective.

Speaker 2: 25:25

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:26

And I think too often we rely only upon our senses for that perspective.

Speaker 1: 25:32

But what we have to recognize is there is a perspective that's outside of our senses, and so I was just looking up. There's a there's a scripture or a Bible verse in second Kings, chapter six, in which the prophet is saying surrounded, or it seems like with his natural eyes, he's surrounded by the enemy and his, his secondhand person or servant, is like oh my goodness, what's going on? This is crazy. We're about to die, they're going to close in on us, and the prophet has the ability to see what's there to be seen versus what he can only see. And he says, he prays to God and says open up, open up his eyes, lord, open the eyes of these men so they can see. Then the Lord opened their eyes and they looked and they, and there they were, inside of Samaria. Actually, this may be the wrong one. It's the wrong one. Oh, here we go, verse 17. So Elijah, elijah prayed oh, lord, open his eyes so that he may see. Then the Lord opened the servant's eyes and he looked and saw the hill full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. And what's happening in this story is, like I said, elisha was surrounded by things in the natural realm, but of course, he's a prophet and he could see more than what the natural eyes could see. And what was actually happening was that he was surrounded by angels and chariots of fire that were there to protect him.

Speaker 1: 26:56

And what does that mean for your life and mine?

Speaker 1: 26:58

It means that when we're looking out at the impact we have on the world, when we're looking out on the impact we have on the people around us, sometimes we can feel like we don't matter, but that's only because we're seeing with our natural eyes.

Speaker 1: 27:11

Like we don't matter, but that's only because we're seeing with our natural eyes. Perhaps you're checking likes, perhaps you're looking at your phone and who's called and checked in on you, but there's so much more that's around, and if there's one thing that you can do to really help yourself is maybe just pray that same prayer and saying Lord, open my eyes so I can see what's really happening in this season of my life and how my life impacts those people who are around me. Because every single person who's listening, every single person who will come into contact with you, is being impacted by your presence. And whether you just smile at someone at the grocery store, whether you spend time having a conversation with them at your job, like you, are so important and your impact is felt far beyond what you know yeah, and I'm curious does does the experience that you had, and then from the scripture and like all of this put together, like, does it change how you?

Speaker 2: 28:04

does it change anything for your life, do you? Like I, I'm curious.

Speaker 1: 28:10

So there's two answers. Um, I think there's the answer you would expect, in which, yeah, it changes everything. It makes me look at things differently, um, but I don't think that would be completely true and transparent. So how I live my life is I'm very much about moving forward and getting to the next thing and getting to the next thing. So I hadn't thought about any of this since we left. But looking back on it, it was like, well, I really see what you're saying and I see how all of these things matter and I don't know why it was so important for all of this to happen and for us to receive all of this in this moment. But looking back, I know it was purposeful.

Speaker 1: 28:51

And so so for it to be purposeful and for it to um accomplish what it was set out to do, I need to spend the time to go back and think about those things and and ask for my eyes to be open, like I'm talking about, to the camera to figure out what. What's actually going on here, because it was you, you know. We talked about the, the path we had to take to get there and get everything done.

Speaker 2: 29:14

It was a lot yeah, a lot of work and we almost and almost didn't go.

Speaker 1: 29:18

Yeah, because it was a lot of purpose, a lot of stuff and a lot of money. Yeah, but um, I think there was a reason and I think it's doing myself, and, in your situation, yourself, a disservice to pass through that experience, to pass through that situation without spending the time to say what was I supposed to get throughout this time.

Speaker 2: 29:40

Yeah, does that answer your question? You're going to do that.

Speaker 1: 29:43

Well, I think it's a great thing to do on the Sabbath.

Speaker 2: 29:45

Yeah, I was going to say we have a Sabbath tomorrow. You ready, you're?

Speaker 1: 29:50

not ready for the Sabbath, but that's, that's at least you can make that as a key point to consider. Cause I think. I think it was something, I don't think it was nothing.

Speaker 2: 29:59

Oh, it was absolutely something.

Speaker 1: 30:01

My wife tells me it was absolutely something, but I'm spending and dedicating the time to figure out. What that is, I think, is how you make, how you create a more purposeful life throughout all of your experiences. When you go through something strange or abnormal, to go back and say there's always a why.

Speaker 2: 30:18

What was the why Diving into that? Yeah, I love that. I love that for you, babe. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1: 30:27

You just want to make my Sabbath more full of more work.

Speaker 2: 30:30

No, I want you to make your Sabbath full of God.

Speaker 1: 30:34

I'll take that yeah.

Speaker 2: 30:35

That's going to be like.

Speaker 1: 30:36

If that's the draw, then I'm for it Anything else that happened this weekend or this past week?

Speaker 2: 30:42

Um, I didn't want to bring this up, I'm bringing it up. Okay, we went for a walk and there was a truck.

Speaker 1: 30:59

So I don't know if you follow talk about perspective us on facebook or me on facebook, but so we, we were walking in the neighborhood and so we're walking. And two she's walking next to me and to our left, like immediate left, is a black suv parked in the driveway. It's near the back of the driveway and in front of it is the back of the.

Speaker 2: 31:16

You call that the back of the driveway, wow it was closest to the road, the back of the driveway. I've never, oh man, this is because, again, the part of the driveway that's closest to the road, so you go in the back, huh, oh but it's the back of the driveway because it's farther from the house.

Speaker 1: 31:36

The back of the driveway can't be closest to the house, why not? If I said, park in the back of the driveway, where are you? I? Will park closest to the house. So if the kids were about to go outside and play, yeah, and I said, park the cars in the back of the driveway well, we're in the house.

Speaker 2: 31:49

if we're in the house, then I'm of the driveway. Well, we're in the house. If we're in the house, then I'm thinking the back is closest to the road, so we're driving into the neighborhood and I said park in the back of the driveway.

Speaker 1: 31:55

You would park closest to the house.

Speaker 2: 31:56

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 31:58

Y'all see what I got to deal with.

Speaker 2: 32:00

So okay. So this is about perspective.

Speaker 1: 32:13

Because the whole point of this is we were walking and we saw an suv that was at the um closest to the mailbox, close to the road in the mailbox.

Speaker 2: 32:16

the black suv was parked there and in front of it was a black sports car maserati, or or from my, from the perspective we were, it was behind, it was at the house and so we had this conversation about what is behind the black SUV.

Speaker 1: 32:34

Now, remember, you got the driveway black SUV closest to the road.

Speaker 2: 32:39

This is not helping. This is not.

Speaker 1: 32:41

You got to face it to them, OK so this is the driveway black SUV closest to the road and then closest to the house is the black Maserati car. Yes, and we're standing here in the street. Yes, and so the question was what is behind the black SUV? And my statement was the trash cans which are on the street is behind the black SUV, but she was saying behind the SUV was the black.

Speaker 2: 33:09

Maserati.

Speaker 1: 33:11

Yeah, was the black. It was a maserati.

Speaker 2: 33:12

Yeah, even though the suv was pointing towards the house which could be relevant or could be or could not be, because at that time, when we were walking away from it, I didn't know which way the the truck was facing, the suv was facing, and so, from my perspective, from the road from, from your, from the front of the driveway in your perspective, or the back of the driveway from my perspective, it was behind and for the suv, the only thing that would matter is which way the suv is facing, because it can't be behind the suv if it's in front of it.

Speaker 1: 33:50

In front and behind, as it pertains to the SUV.

Speaker 2: 33:53

All has to do with which way the SUV why would you go from the perspective of the SUV and not from your perspective?

Speaker 1: 34:00

because you're referencing the SUV it's still I.

Speaker 2: 34:07

I get the logic.

Speaker 1: 34:08

That's like telling you go stand in front of Vernon and you go stand behind his back.

Speaker 2: 34:15

It doesn't make sense. So is the door in front or behind the camera?

Speaker 1: 34:19

The door is behind the camera.

Speaker 2: 34:21

Behind the camera because it's facing that, but from my perspective it's like I'm facing this way. It's in front of me, so it's in front of the camera. That doesn't make any sense but anyway, that's about perspective and it was very eye-opening that our perspectives are quite different.

Speaker 1: 34:36

You go to my facebook page there's a post where I asked the world about this however, I wasn't completely. The picture was taken a little bit different perspective. Thank, you, but as you read through all 99 responses, there's only one response in support of her opinion yeah, and we were the only right ones.

Speaker 1: 34:54

Crystal and I appreciate thank you, crystal, thank you everybody else had a lot of sense and logic in their minds. So go to the facebook page if you have a chance. Yeah, and go and chime in, because I'm sure you'll all be on my side or better, yet maybe we need to post it to uh the youtube page. Drop your comment below as to if behind means on the other side or behind means behind behind and then tell us why, please.

Speaker 1: 35:26

We need perspective and we need to know it's okay, y'all could tell I don't know how she got this perspective, but anyway, I'm know and it's okay, y'all can tell it's me.

Speaker 2: 35:35

She has thick skin. I don't know how she got this perspective, but anyway.

Speaker 1: 35:37

I'm still standing on it because it makes it's 100%.

Speaker 2: 35:39

I still love her because she's cute. Thank you, I'm also smart, so let's not forget that part On camera. This is what you're going to do.

Speaker 1: 35:48

I'm just saying behind is behind and in front is in front. I'm still smart, okay. Thank you so much for joining in with us for Conversations at the World. We hope that you spend some time thinking about your loved ones and thinking about spending some time and gaining some wisdom before all that's left is for you to have that last you know celebration of life Like. Let's truly celebrate life and spend time with those who matter to us, no matter what your relationship is, because you'll definitely gain some more experience and gain some more understanding through your time. What you may find is the time you dedicate now may end up helping and supporting you more so than it can impact them.

Speaker 2: 36:23

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